Trump Bets Growth Against $40 Trillion Debt
Trump Bets Growth Against $40 Trillion Debt
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President Trump says the United States will grow its way out of a national debt that just passed $40 trillion — and a leading budget economist says that is not going to work.
"It's been a problem for 35 years," Trump told reporters Friday. "And what we have now … is we have tremendous growth. And the way you take care of debt is with growth, and we have tremendous growth. We've never had growth like we have right now."
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent made the same case on CNBC last week: "There's nothing magic about the $40 trillion number. And we can grow our way out of that."
Kent Smetters, the Boettner Professor of economics and public policy at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School and faculty director of the Penn Wharton Budget Model, told Fortune the growth plan is a "fantastic story" but "pretty clearly" not feasible.
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The federal debt crosses $40 trillion, a milestone reported by the New York Times and cited across the political spectrum.
Bessent tells CNBC's Sara Eisen there is "nothing magic" about the number and the country can grow out of it.
Trump tells reporters growth is how you take care of debt, calling the current expansion unlike anything the country has had.
Fortune publishes Smetters' rebuttal; the Washington Examiner and MS NOW run dueling editorials blaming, respectively, spending and tax cuts.
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Smetters argues the White House has the causality backwards. "People often get the causality kind of opposite," he told Fortune. "They think more growth, less of a debt problem, and in reality, it's just the opposite … We deal with the debt issue in order to try to aid economic growth, not vice versa."
He said Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid blunt the benefit of any growth surge, because the initial calculation of Social Security benefits includes productivity growth on top of inflation. "Hypothetically, even if we double the impact of, say, AI on productivity, it barely moves the balance because the initial benefits go up," he said.
The Washington Examiner, in an editorial, blamed spending rather than revenue. It noted that in 2001 the federal government spent $1.86 trillion and collected $1.99 trillion, a $128 billion surplus, while today it is set to spend $7.5 trillion and take in $5.4 trillion — a roughly $2 trillion shortfall. Over that span, the paper wrote, revenue grew 171% and spending grew 303%. Since 2001, it said, Medicare spending is up 392%, Medicaid about 453% and Social Security 287%, while net interest has gone from about $206 billion to more than $1 trillion.
Democrats put the blame on the other side of the ledger. Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA), vice chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee, posted: "REMINDER: The single biggest driver of our national debt for the last 25 YEARS have been Republican-led tax cuts." Writing for MS NOW, Bobby Kogan, senior director of federal budget policy at the Center for American Progress, argued that without the Bush and Trump tax cuts the debt-to-GDP ratio would be declining indefinitely, and that long-term spending has actually come in below what was projected the last time the budget was on a stable path.
What's Next
The bond market is the near-term test. The risk premium investors demand to hold the 30-year Treasury rose above 5.3% in recent days, prompting Bessent to deploy $4 billion or more in unscheduled buybacks, according to Fortune.
Growth is not the only option still on the table. Some deficit hawks are pushing to cut federal deficits to 3% of GDP — about half current levels — while others want a commission modeled on President Obama's Bowles-Simpson panel. Neither has been ruled out by the administration.
Then come the midterms. New research for the nonpartisan Peterson Foundation, conducted by the Democratic firm Global Strategy Group and the Republican firm North Star Opinion Research, found only 10% of voters said the debt will not affect their ballot decision this year. "With the midterm elections approaching, voters are making it clear that they want candidates with a decisive plan to address our unsustainable budget and debt," Peterson Foundation CEO Michael Peterson said in a statement.
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The raw $40 trillion figure is not what economists watch. The ratio of debt to GDP is, and it currently stands at 122%.
This is also the administration's third answer to the debt question. Trump first said tariffs would pay it down — a plan undercut when the Supreme Court ordered the administration to repay roughly $100 billion in revenues the justices deemed illegal. He later floated a "golden visa" sold to wealthy immigrants at $5 million each.
Confidence in future growth rests heavily on the artificial intelligence buildout. Smetters called it temporary: "We are going through a big investment boom right now, it's transitory, it probably lasts three to five-ish years. You could still get lots of enhancements throughout the rest of the economy, but nothing that comes close, even remotely close to, dealing with the debt issue."
His warning to Washington was about trust. "If you tell the debt markets: 'Hey, we think we're gonna be able to grow our way out of this,' and then a year later they're not seeing any improvements from that, then it's a credibility issue."
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